A proposal for players
Should we raise the max level?
We're thinking about letting you train past 99, with new "void levels" up to level 118 in every skill. Nothing is decided and nothing has changed in the game. We'd like to hear what you think first.
What would it mean?
Levels 100 to 118 would be Void 1 to Void 19.
to reach 118 in one skill. A 99 takes 13M, so that's 6.6 times as much.
for level 118 alone. That's about the same as going from level 1 to 94.
The game has kept counting your XP past 99 all along. Right now it mostly just moves you up the hiscores. Void levels would turn it into something you can see.
The case for and against
Why it could be great
- A new goal after 99Today the climb ends at 99. This gives maxed players something big to chase.
- Your extra XP would countIf you kept training past 99, those hours finally show on your stats.
- Stronger against monstersIf levels count in fights, kills are about 20% faster at 118. King Black Dragon goes from about 40 seconds to about 31.
- Some skills get fasterMining and Thieving improve the most. Runite goes from about 22% to about 37% per try at 118.
- New things to show offTitles, capes, hiscores and world announcements for reaching void levels.
- Customers for longerPlayers climbing past 99 keep buying logs, ore, fish and potions.
Why it could go wrong
- A very long climb99 to 118 is 5.6 times all the XP from 1 to 99.
- 99 could feel less specialThe number everyone knows stops being the top. In this proposal the Max cape stays at 99.
- PvP could sufferIf levels count against players, a 118 beats a 99 about 9 times in 10 in the Wilderness and almost always in a duel.
- Very uneven skillsAt today's XP rates, Magic could reach 118 in about 34 hours. Fishing could take about 1,300.
- Some skills only get a bigger numberFletching, Smithing, Crafting and Herbalism work the same at 118 as at 99.
- The economy could wobbleCoal and herbs could run short, and rune gear and coins could flood the market.
- Head startsAnyone with lots of XP past 99 could start well ahead of everyone else.
- TimeTime spent building this is time not spent on other new content.
How long would it take?
Pick a max level and an XP speed. Hours are for relaxed play from 99 to that level, and players who min-max could be much faster.
These are rough estimates from the game's data and a short private test, so they could be off by 40% either way. No player data was used.
What would it do to fights?
Calculated with the same gear and no food, so skill and luck will change these. The polls below ask whether levels past 99 should count in fights at all.
| How often the higher level beats a 99 | 110 | 118 | 120 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Wilderness melee | 77% | 89% | 91% |
| Melee duel | 97% | 99.8% | 99.9% |
| Ranged | 82% | 94% | 95% |
| Magic | 66% | 76% | 78% |
| Against monsters, with potions | 99 | 110 | 118 | 120 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| King Black Dragon, seconds per kill | 40 | 34 | 31 | 30 |
| Akaoni, seconds per kill | 114 | 99 | 91 | 89 |
| Combat level with every combat skill at that level | 123 | 137 | 147 | 150 |
Have your say
No account needed. Only the first question is required. You get one vote per internet connection, and you'll see the results once you've voted.
Questions you might have
Yes. In this proposal the Max cape stays at level 99.
No. Everything that needs a 99 today would still work at 99.
No. Nobody loses levels or XP under any of these choices.
There's no date, and it isn't part of the next big update. If players want it, we'd try it on the test realm first.
We haven't tested it on phones yet. We would before any release.
Those four need extra work, because their content stops at 99. Harvesting is limited per day, so reaching 118 would take about 700 days even fully stocked. They may come later than the others.
It helps us decide. We'll still test whatever wins before it goes anywhere near the main game.
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